Today Brett is talking about “Cardmageddon”, as our co-host for today’s episode- Dave Birch- refers to the moment when other types of payments outpace card payments. We are talking about where it will, when it will, and how it will happen.

Joining Brett and Dave today is Jordan Lampe, Communications Director of Dwolla with an announcement, and payments experts Brian Roemmele, Faisal Kahn, and Rafael Otero.