Protopian futurist Monika Bielskytė, now advising NATO on cognitive warfare, joins Rob Tercek and Brett King to explain how hybrid warfare works. Its goal is not to persuade anyone of anything. It amplifies the extremes on both sides of real grievances until people believe nothing and become passive. Monika argues that the answer is a constructive vision of the future, anchored in science, and Elon Musk serves as the case study for how paper wealth and science-fiction hype translate into real-world power. Topics covered in this episode: Cognitive warfare and the politics of despair; Protopia vs. “burn it all down” nihilism; extraction vs. regeneration; Elon Musk is floating Mars, while shorting Earth; Consensus in an age of autonomous systems.